[quote=@Darcs][i]"These two people have achieved the dream so that means anyone and everyone can."[/i][/quote]

With precious few exceptions, yes, anyone and everyone can.

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]That the US and democratic values in general has improved upward mobility from where it was before is absolutely true, but this doesn't mean we have reached the peak.[/quote]

Well that's part of the dream, innit? There is no "peak." We just keep building.

[quote=@Andreyich]It is achievable, that doesn't mean it's realistically achievable, or in essence what darcs posted. [/quote]

So it's, what, "unrealistically achievable" in your estimation? I'm doing it right now.