What the fuck is up with people posting random fucking gifs to replace like, two words "hehe lol it's jontron xddd hehe lol it's random asian dude who I'm pulling out of context but it's okay xdddd" [quote]Even unattended, capitalism does. Namely, for the benefit of his own self-image or wealth whether direct or indirect ownership of computers or the software that made computers the consumer platform that they became that he helped developed is not equally owned by the people who worked on it. [/quote] That's not really his fault, and those people did not make equal contribution to it, and regardless he owns it; if someone moved my swing a bit that doesn't mean he gets to play on it as much as me. It's my fucking swing and if anyone tries to hop onto it I'm blasting their face off. [quote] The individuals working on Gates development of Windows - whether in the beginning or in the future Windows corporation - do not have ownership of the product they created, and ownership instead goes to the company or the boss; this is one of the fundamental three forms of alienation, the alienation of the worker from the product of his labor. While they are not being paid, the fact millions and millions still goes into the pockets of company bosses means that the individuals doing the actual work aren't getting the full value of their own ownership of the product by simply being there to work on it.[/quote] What do you mean "while they are not being paid." They get paid for hour, but only receive it in paychecks, but you see with same elementary school math we can see that it evens out to the same thing, believe it or not. [quote]Extending the example, computers require semi-conductive materials that are not universally distributed. The main source for the materials needed are often sourced from third-world sources like the Congo, where proxy wars had been fought between the United States and Soviet Union for the country's vast mineral deposits required to build, operate, and maintain advanced equipment such as jet aircraft and computers. The people working these mines do not have ownership of their labor, easily even: they're not much better off than slaves. Being paid bare wages they get forced to dig up rare materials by bosses who take a large sum of the profit from the enterprise for themselves for little or no work themselves; they keep it on the merit that they're 'the owner' and often hire armed mercenaries to keep the miners from revolting. The very fact these materials are so prized by high-tech first-world countries and are so valuable also means in times of Civil War these mines are prized by guerrilla factions who seize them and sell the product to the market which takes the materials and pays them to keep up the war.[/quote] The people in these mines are better off than they ever were. Look at the ooga boogas in Africa 100-200 years ago and look at them now. Thanks to this """evil""" Imperialism they at least have medicine, food and water. They actually think before some crazy bitch tells them to kill all their cattle though their continuation to try and be socialist/communist keeps them shitholes, despite the best efforts of Rhodesian and South African heroes to slaughter this red filth. If the miners revolted, they'd die without anyone delivering food to them on a daily basis anyway. And you see, guerillas may like these mines but it's us evil Westerners that gave them this work in the first place. tl;dr your example is shit and you should feel shit [quote]Now, let's keep going: your sister in making jewelry must ultimately get materials that, like with the minerals of the Congo, are derived from the Earth. And is most often the case gold and silver must be dug up through the use of miners often paid menial wages, such as is most often the case in Southern America. Local miners go to work in a mine for low wages to dig up gold, facing extreme conditions jeopardizing their health and safety, being in contact with harsh polluting chemicals in the process, all to give it to their boss who sells the gold and keeps a vast majority the gold's value to himself. The miners do not own the gold, and as Big Bill Haywood said, "The mine owners' did not find the gold, they did not mine the gold, they did not mill the gold, but by some weird alchemy all the gold belonged to them!'"[/quote] That's why we got these funny things called wages. You can say they are low but at least they get them. See, people on the left aren't very smart so they keep on spouting shit like "give the worker freedom from wages," but they do not see that the only natural freedom is to die. Without being offered these wages they would keep on with their little hunter-gatherer societies on the verge of cannibalism. But this is not the case, for Western men are kind enough to let them into the wonderful secret of economic contracts. [quote]The same pattern of alienation from the product of labor extends into the first world where while we have higher wages over all and a better range of benefits in support of the worker we do not often get full value for our work nor any sort of ownership. A man at Ford can't pick out a car of his choice and drive it off as is, despite having built so many cars for Ford he's certainly earned through labor the right to take one as he sees. But in the nuanced world of minimum wage and raising it forever, the end cost of a product will itself go up; lending in my mind a raise in minimum wage should be tied to a proportion of the shit done and income brought in.[/quote] [quote] Once again, people on the left aren't very smart so they don't understand that this is simply not how it works. His work alone is not enough to have made the cars. He was given the opportunity to work there, and his specific work alone is not enough to make a car. He hasn't earned the right, as said earlier the only rights one is born with is existence and subsequent (or perhaps even, consequent) death. Additionally, believe it or not people have to eat and drink, and much of his labour's wages went towards that. Via capitalism, he doesn't have to work on a shit farm to make his food, and he can actually buy some after a mere 8-12 hour working day. This is of course not the only expression of exploitation through alienation, but it is the most handy.[/quote] Exploitation is not inherently bad, if you use the [quote]ex·ploit verb ikˈsploit/Submit 1. make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). "500 companies sprang up to exploit this new technology" synonyms: utilize, harness, use, make use of, turn/put to good use, make the most of, capitalize on, benefit from; informalcash in on "we should exploit this new technology"[/quote] definition anyway, since anything else is wasteful.