[quote]You didn't answer my question. She pays taxes, right? Does this not mean, that in some small way, she in complicit in supporting the regimes of country's that are personally invested in invading poor countries for their oil? I think, being in a country that isn't being violently mined for oil might have something to do with the fact that she can make jewelry, but what do I know.[/quote] That doesn't matter. The country they invaded was also capitalist and the people there live better now under a government that at least pretends to be secular and such. Not to mention, the war in the middle east only went on to bring huge monetary losses even if nefarious ebil American Imperialist ambitions were behind it. [quote]You're right. Microsoft's business practices are all squeaky clean! [/quote] We're not arguing about it's business practice but about business overall. Business puts these laws there in the first place, at most you can blame microsoft for violating laws that it - by extension - placed upon itself which is not a very smart thing to do. [quote]Again-- bigger picture, most of these things aren't even businesses, first off-- but more avenues for expressing creativity or some type of art, that people have to monetize, because of they don't, they'd literally starve to death. Let's take this away from a focus on the American poor, or even the global poor. [/quote] But art was commodified before the existence of money; people couldn't just make it on spare time, prehistoric artists would have someone bringing them their food in exchange for their works. It seems, that before the invention of capitalism it was already better than communism. Not to mention, that it is the choice of the artist to monetize their art. As such, you should blame the artists rather than capitalism. I for one wouldn't mind shooting a hipster making music on soundcloud, they are annoying fucks aren't they? [quote]The intrinsic ties between sates-- some corrupt and democratic, some corrupt and "communist" some somewhere in between-- and the prevailing global economic beast we call "capitalism." I think it's clear there are many people that suffer because of it-- I find it's more prudent to focus on the fact that if we were to look at this as some "pyramid" where the things that get fucked over most end up on the bottom: and it's the planet. By having so many countries that encourage infinite growth of wealth and resources, the thing that gets fucked over most ALWAYS is the environment. And in fucking over the environment, we fuck over ourselves. Does that mean EVERY business owner is LITERALLY hurting someone who works for them? No. But, by funneling money to the top, by continuing to allow the system to continue in it's current form, we are all complicit the crimes of the 1%, of states fighting over material resources at the behest of lobbyists. We're all fucking over the planet, and the animals (read: us) that rely on it's resources to live.[/quote] People don't suffer, they only do better by it. Communism was tried over and over (no matter how much you bitch and whine that it wasn't real communism) and it didn't work, stop trying to destroy stable society. The environmental concern is also a kind of bullshit thing to bring up too since it's just there to make you look like the good guy freedom fighter against us ebil imperialists wanting to save the earth. In truth, socialist Chile was razing and clearing forests and Vietnam has so much fucking smog that cars are all but banned there. Communist countries are always very backwards and still haven't even heard of alternative fuel sources. So once again, Capitalists are heroes and communists are the ones turning our planet to shit. We are not complicit in the crimes of the one percent, I know I'm not. I don't eat McDonald's and I eat mama's cutlets instead, I don't drink your filthy coca cola but make my own Kvass from shit I grow in my backyard and in a few vases. So once more, you're plain wrong and your argument continuously trips up over itself.