[quote=@SleepingSilence] Oh, and since my current debate is going nowhere. How about something possibly more interesting and hopefully less personal, political/personal opinion. (try to stick to non-personal conjecture.) 2020. (assuming we don't crash into the sun.) What happens in the next election? Who do you WANT to run, and who do you think will actually try to run? Would you actually vote for the same person you voted for again, if you did? [s]Will you not vote again and complain that elections are rigged and start a petition to succeed if you're side doesn't win?[/s] Do you think if Trump does well (to the people that voted for him.) He'll get re-elected again? Would you want the third two term president in a row even if he was? How about if he is passable/does poorly? Is there an actual difference? Will third parties ever have a damned chance? Give me your thoughts. Maybe it will lead to better discussion. *fingers halfheartedly crossed* :3 [/quote] A third party won in 2016, and we're kicking out the establishment GOP bit by bit. Hostile takeover, under budget and ahead of schedule. Trump will win re-election unless the Democrats abandon... well that's the wrong word. They need to stand for [i]something[/i]. The loose coalition of pseudo-oppressed propagandized minority groups is tearing apart at the seams, and the mobilization tactics of yesteryear are slipping. It's a worst-case scenario for Democrats -- the future is actually getting brighter, and they have nothing whatsoever to do with it.