[quote]So why did Obama and so many before him do so little? It wasn't due to the economy not needing help. And how do we know what was read or not? Seems rather speculative. [/quote] We know what was and was not read based upon his interviews. He never knows what he's talking about, and he's often confused. He's been stated to be factually wrong/lying 3/4ths of the time, compared to Hillary Clinton's 1/4th of the time, and while you might think Hillary's is bad, that's actually normal for a politician. [quote]Though the media and people like Seth Myers, giving me that information, I can hardly take those people seriously, from the lies they themselves have said in the past. [/quote] Like I said, I'm independent. I try to look at both conservative and liberal views. Seth Myers is obviously a liberal, however the video itself used its source verbatim. Can't really argue with that. Also that video you posted is factually wrong. 1) Obama took away Coal jobs, because it's environmentally harmful. Yet he also official (according to the treasury) brought us out of our economic recession and gave us millions of jobs in other areas. 2) "Coal mining is bad for the environment, based on what?" Are...is he serious? (Not only is his german info out of context (because Germany's colder weather, 2016’s leap day, a growing economy and population growth outweighed any energy savings and its been scientifically proven, DESPITE the coal emissions helping keep it down by only raising it 1 percent. I.E. if they had used coal, it would have gone up 5-10 %. So, no coal is still good.) A simple wiki search shows what Coal mining does to the environment. [quote]Coal mining can result in a number of adverse effects on the environment. Surface mining of coal completely eliminates existing vegetation, destroys the genetic soil profile, displaces or destroys wildlife and habitat, degrades air quality, alters current land uses, and to some extent permanently changes the general topography of the area mined.[31] This often results in a scarred landscape with no scenic value. Of greater concern, the movement, storage, and redistribution of soil during mining can disrupt the community of soil microorganisms and consequently nutrient cycling processes. Rehabilitation or reclamation mitigates some of these concerns and is required by US Federal Law, specifically the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977. Mine dumps (tailings) could produce acid mine drainage which can seep into waterways and aquifers, with consequences on ecological and human health. If underground mine tunnels collapse, they cause subsidence of the ground above. Subsidence can damage buildings, and disrupt the flow of streams and rivers by interfering with the natural drainage. Coal production is a major contributor to global warming: burning coal generates large quantities of carbon dioxide and mining operations can release methane, a known greenhouse gas, into the atmosphere. The coal mining industry is working to improve its public image.[/quote] This guy is asking John Oliver to prove an obvious fact. Like saying "this steak came from a cow? Prove it. Based on what?" 3) There is no "clean" coal technology. That's a term to show it's using coal in a more efficient way. It's not clean. 4) He used John Oliver's joke as a point for solar power being more expensive. I don't know why... John Oliver never said it was cheaper. Just cleaner and more effective. 5) He's acting like 33,000 jobs is a huge thing, and saying Solar/Wind power has no potential, which both are absolutely wrong. This last rant really showed how right winged this guy is, and you should never listen to someone who is biased. It's why I am an independent. [quote]But he isn't shutting down jobs for coal. He's rehiring a part of the workers Obama had shut down on purpose to "kill their industry." Alternative energy shouldn't be considered practical on a wide scale, and will have oil and other energies backing it up. Because it has already visible problems lead to problems elsewhere. And that's disregarding an argument for the third world.[/quote] As far as Coal jobs go, my point is this: New energy such as Solar and Wind, while they aren't perfect, are in fact, the future. Coal hurts the environment. It is literally helping lead to the deaths of our kids and grand kids, to the earth shutting down as a planet, and perhaps the end of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of future jobs so we can have some jobs now. People who are for coal just want things 'now now now' and fuck the consequences. [quote]I bet he gets a lot more done and is able to think better when he is outside of the incredibly hostile environment that pretty much envelops the white house. Considering he has been in office for so little time, he has actually got quite a lot done so I have no idea where you are getting this idea of doing very little. Overall though, I am much more interested in what his 'staff' can get accomplished then President Trump, mostly I hope he can be a decent catalyst for the other people to get their jobs done.[/quote] He's doing very little because 1) his staff reportedly does most of everything, and he has his family in the whitehouse handling his affairs. Hell, his son in law was tasked with "brokering peace in the middle east." [quote]I'm more worried about how you can consider Obama, Sanders, and Bill Clinton as being good candidates. Obama got very little done during his time in the White House and created a lot more problems then he fixed, like pushing through a poorly constructed health care bill that is imploding. Sanders seemed like a decent fellow at first, until he sold out his followers to pave the way for Hillary and revealed his true colors. Now Bill, admittedly he actually had some decent success as a President but considering he almost got impeached for some rather disgusting behavior shows he is severely lacking in the moral compass department. As bad as that was, it is the Clinton Foundation that really takes the cake with their despicable behavior in Haiti which includes both Hillary and Bill.[/quote] I am not entirely sure what news you surbscribe to, but Obama brought us out of economic recession, was harried at every turn by republicans yet still got his healthcare bill out, which while not perfect, gave 23 million americans affordable healthcare. He gave us over 10 million more jobs, and he also helped us environmentally. Sanders did not sell out or 'show his true colors'. He simply felt like me, which is "no Trump," so he supported Hillary. I think Sanders goes a bit too far with his socialist ideals, but he's a decent guy. Yeah, I was more using Bill as someone who'd help guide her as president, rather than being a moral compass. Though that was 20 years ago, and while I've never done it, a lot of people I know have cheated on people. I think bringing it up to use against him now is kind of out of date, even if back then it was despicable.