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Also I think Bill Clinton was responsible for the housing market crash. (or at least was the one who started the fire.)

I'm honestly expecting for the left side and right side to make the exact same arguments against Trump, and I mean the EXACT same ones during the 2020 election. (Which will make that year possibly just as unbearable.) Because politicians don't seem to learn from history. If Trump isn't called racist or sexist even once during the 2020 campaign by people running against him, I'll *insert absurd thing here*. <.<

Hell, oddly enough I think Kayne if he ran for the left/third party, may get him a stupidly high chunk of the minority vote...(if he could manage to even take the campaign remotely seriously.)
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I think every President since Reagan has helped with our economic woes, but the most typical economic explanation of the 2008 crash comes down to deregulation of the housing market by Clinton and Bush. This is the main reason I don't considered myself a Democrat... ever since Clinton, they basically do the same shit, just not as extremely. It's like good cop bad cop, but they both fuck shit up. We are in a Neo-Liberal political era, that's the reality of it, and there isn't much help for it until we deregulate and tear apart the safety net just enough for a recession to actually become a long-term depression again. We almost did that in 2008, but Bush woke up and abandoned right wing principles just enough to put the breaks on the crash. Since Obama failed to go after the problem in any more than a band-aid way, and Trump is pushing for further deregulation, we're certain to have another go at economic catastrophe. If this happens in the next four years, 2020 will be verrrry interesting. And if not, yeh, 2020 will probably be a replay of 2016 but this time without Hillary. 

[quote]I think you and most people into the climate change sphere are being alarmists. And unnecessarily so. They never want to actually give us an answer how we can “solve” this problem, it's another problem that “has no solution or clear ending point.” which sure is politically convenient...[/quote]

Eh, alarmism in Global Warming is justified IMHO. Scientists come up with a number of potential trajectories suggested by the data, and it shows that the alarmist answers we hear are a meaningful possibility. The end of the world scenarios are not certain, but the idea that we should do nothing when there is a meaningful possibility of severe desertification/rising seas/whatever is irresponsible.

As I've seen it the argument breaks down to scientific preparedness vs purity of the market, and since I believe that the whole Purity of the free market thing is essentially a theological argument, I have no problem sullying it to hedge our bets. Shit, even if global warming turns out to be very small potatoes, we'll get technological advancement out of the deal. 

[quote]The Sanders' thrust lost its point and credibility when it was not only cheated out by its own party, but also pushed a strong socialist agenda. It helped none that it did not bite back against the Hillary campaign and took a beating laying down instead.[/quote]

IMHO I found a lot of that rather enduring. That you have to be a rich person who attacks people to become President is too bad, but it does seem to be the case.