[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
Science doesn't happen over night. The idea that we should cease funding improvements to our society if those improvements are not yet competitive on the market is very short sighted. That we haven't reached the point where clean energy is competitive doesn't mean that it is impossible that it will ever happen. Until then, the Market itself has no reason to favor funding for experimentation, so development in a fundamentalist Market economy would necessarily be way slower. 
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This point boils down to, Subsides aren't good for the consumer or even the businesses themselves. That's the biggest problem. 

And the market doesn't reward new interesting products and experimentation? Seriously? Kickstarter debunks the very idea that's a thing. (among other things.) People will pay and invest in good, useful products and interesting ideas. We are talking about otherwise, less useful and more expensive things that only exist because the rich are guilt tripping the rest of us that we're "polluting the planet" while living the most lavish lifestyles possible. Tell third world countries we're about to make your energy much more expensive and see how happy they are at the concept.

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
Again, he was a policy dude, so the idea he wouldn't sacrifice medicaid and the like to purge a bit of bile isn't that surprising.
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I disagree that he even had a clue what he was talking about...a policy dude, who couldn't get his head on straight of what businesses he was going after. 

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
Sounds like you're in love =p

Let's not go waaay out there and pretend Trump smashed this thing. The "Leftists are all ebil monsters and everyone knows it and thats why everyone everywhere loves Trump" narrative is a surefire way to land your own philosophy in the same type of unreality as that of the small cadre of SJW type space cadets you assume to be everybody left of center. The bitterness after the election was going to happen one way or another. 
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Like I already said, I compared Trump to Sony during the convention. All he did was what you'd think a common damn human being would expect, but the left fell so far into their own propaganda and double down constantly. Trump didn't have to do anything and he got himself elected. He was not my first pick to put it mildly.

I'm not saying that either, but certainly far more on the left acting nuts, destroying property and embarrassing themselves. They didn't even go after republicans for being "Ebil", it wasn't the "Ebil" [s]ones who write your check/pays for the government check.[/s] 1% percent. It wasn't even the vague "rich people" who were the evil ones, that worked in every other election cycle. No, they had to go a step farther. It was every single white cis man on the face of the earth that was the problem this time. AND everyone who disagreed with them even slightly. I don't even know how she managed to get more votes from how many people that excludes...[s](ya know aside from the dead and ones who can't vote legally and all. *this isn't serious I swear if this is used as a quote, I'm buying bleach.*)[/s]

Bitterness after the election is a big understatement...it was embarrassing, and ridiculous and it literally is still going on to this day people whining about the election being "hacked".

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
I disagreed with that particular statement, but since the rest of his campaign didn't bear the anti-white thing out, and because the other candidates were by far worse, Bernie is the least f-himself-able candidate in the running. It would be too bad if we as a culture sanctify Trump and demonize Sanders. 
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He said, many more things that showed what kind of person he was. But I'm not pretending either candidate is a saint here. When you have three or more marriages, your probably kind of a fuck up, in at least one way...And Obama being treated like the second coming of Christ, and the chunk of Trump's fan base and this whole fucking worship of a political figure thing, creeps me the fuck out and shows just how goddamn cult-like politics actually is...(or can be at least.)

But yes, I will demonize Sanders because his actual ideas would fundamentally screw America. But that's my opinion I guess, [s]and the history of socialism...[/s]

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
So Bernie Sanders is a socialist because he is envious that other people having three bigger houses than him? Wat? The guy doesn't make enough money to personally fund public healthcare on his own, so his income isn't really pertinent to his policy positions. You'd have to think I'm an Arch-Marxist who actually thinks everyone should make the same income for that argument to have an effect, because otherwise it's nonsensical. I mean, shit, I personally know people who make six figures. That's not mega-elite status exactly.  

Also, if Trump got the funding from elsewhere, which he would need more of to cover expenses that pre-existing wealth covered in this timeline, then he would probably land even closer to Dem spending then he already did. 
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Missing the forest from the trees on that one, my point is he is a hypocrite. And most rich socialists messages are completely hollow and most of that mentality comes from greed. The rich businesses didn't get rich, by hurting poor people. They made money through a transaction benefiting both parties. The idea that you can make too much money, is ridiculous to me. Clearly not everyone, but again, if they were put in those shoes they wouldn't do it either. Or like people that win the lottery, they won't know how to handle it in the slightest, fuck their lives up and go broke. Proving that money doesn't solve always your problems.

I don't really see the logic there, but it's just conjecture at this point. So I'll say maybe, we'll never know?  

[quote=@Vilageidiotx]
goddamit. IQ tests are imperfect measures of intelligence.
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It's confusing that you post this without mentioning anyone else. Because it seems to imply, that I disagree with that notion. So preaching to the choir, fellow canine avatar.