[quote=@Penny] It certainly seems like people are living in some weird mirror universes. One side sees Trump as an utterly incompetent embarrassment, the other as a messianic figure that can do no wrong. It is fallacious to say that the truth is somewhere in the middle, but there is SO LITTLE commonality of opinion on the matter. [/quote] Those statements seem contradictory to me... While I oddly also sort of agree with both, depending on exactly what you are talking about... I think outright calling him incompetent would be the wrong word to use, since he's (was) currently running successful company. And he managed to become president without spending 100 times as much as his opponent...at the same time, people pretending he's perfect is goddamn embarrassing and it's creepy that people get cult like in real life, to celebrities, athletes, presidents. It really does sort of make a "everyone worships something" statement kind of accurate...While he's resume is a touch more impressive than handing out flyers. He also clearly doesn't lack an ego and he clearly doesn't have a filter. (and yeah, the leader of our country should probably be acting just a [s]sh*tload[/s] bit more professional.) As for the "there is no middle ground answer" thing. I do think it's wrong that there is a lot of grey area for most things and that the world for a lot of things isn't merely black and white. So I disagree that there isn't an answer somewhere in the middle for certain things. (Not all by a long shot.) But I also don't think a lot of self proclaimed "centrists" aren't being particularly honest, often hypocritical, or that they aren't extremely interested/knowledgeable in politics. But that's just a personal thing from experience of talking to most people like that. And people comparing Trump to Hitler are just dumb. There's one of the examples, where the answer isn't in the middle. It's just hyperbole. :P [@POOHEAD189] Has a lot more than the last one did. xP I won't go out of my way to say he's "qualified" But he's clearly not that dumb. It's sort of like people attacking Bush for being a C student. In fucking Yale. (and his opponent had a C- to add to the irony.) Running a business is experience in a very small scale, but not every idiot can run one for as long as he has.