[quote=@SleepingSilence] [@POOHEAD189] He gave him a million bucks. I think Trump has made a pretty good returns in that investment. xP I mean almost all small business owners get loans...I don't see why that's put against him. I feel like I'm defending a man, who I'd probably be perfectly fine mocking under most circumstances...I just feel like, he's already gotten his 8 years of bush hatred out, without a year in office. And a lot of it isn't well justified either. [/quote] He got a million dollars, and inherited a lot of business assets, and as I said, his father managed a lot of his affairs. His business base was not made from himself. Look, Trump isn't all bad. But he has little in the way of redeeming qualities.