[@ProPro][@Prince of Seraphs] So I was reading through. A little late to the party. And I pretty much agree. Although, if I might add my own thoughts on Terry, mostly cause I like to talk, I would say that we really should blame the poor handling of the character as opposed to the character himself. By this I mean, they needed to make him seem dumber than he was to attribute for him needing help and Bruce being needed or anybody else. Mostly, because Bruce went off and trained and learned various skills over a number of years. Terry didn't do that. At best he's a brawler. But I think part of what made that great was his unpredictability in combat at time. Hmmm I guess an example would be him versus the joker near the climax of the "return of the joker" movie. It's also clear he gains more skill in the justice league (or was it unlimited?) episode "epilogue." His stealth, among other skills, seem to have grown much stronger with time as he manages to get to an aged Waller even without his suit (if I'm remembering right). Of course these examples are generally only applicable when comparing him to animated series Batman since I'm sure if you go by comics you can find countless points to show Bruce being the same to an extent.