Ok now I lowkey want to do a spinoff rp with the parents XD 

Maybe the families of Crow’s father and John are close due to some marriage? It could even be that John’s former wife was the sister of Crow’s father. So that would mean Layth is a cousin of Crow but still keep Penelope and Crow unrelated. Anyways, the two could have been placed together on some assignment in the outer villages and that’s were they each meet the girls. Except while Crow’s father is just looking for fun, John actually has feelings for Penelope’s mom and offers her a job as a servant in order to escape the state of the outer villages. 

John would definitely hate Crow’s father XD I imagine that they’re rivals/worst enemies to some extent and when John was shunned by his family Crow’s dad probably had a field day. 

As for the mothers, I like the idea of them being friends! Ooo a common connection that is still alive is Penelope’s aunt, whom she hasn’t seen since childhood, so maybe at one point in the rp they run into her. Maybe Crow even thinks she looks familiar/recognizes her since she would have stayed in the village. She could be the one to tell them all about the past and so on.

I only really have what I put on John’s CS mapped out, along with some kinda messed up stuff Penelope went through once she moved back in with her noble family. There’s a lot of their story that can be added to.