[quote=@Inkarnate] This kind of falls into the “if you skim read or skip a post it is a fundamental issue” category in my mind. I can understand hobby writers might be strapped for time, but if they actually care about the project more often than not they will read a piece and if they have issues remembering all the details they will communicate that fact. It is not the writer’s responsibility to write a summary or synopsis. It is the reader’s responsibility to read. [/quote] I didn't say if they had memory issues. Why would they? The post isn't going anywhere. I said it's good to have it to help them concentrate on what is in the post. [quote]Elitism seems to be a nice buzzword in arguments like this but I do not think myself or others are being elitist when we iterate that if you don’t respect the collaborative project and your peers enough to read their material then you probably aren’t suited to the medium. Role-playing is a [i]collaborative[/i] medium and if you aren’t being actually collaborative then what really is the point? It might be pompous and kind of rude for me to basically tell someone to not bother, sure, but it isn’t elitism.[/quote] [quote=@NuttsnBolts] I believe that claiming elitism in this scenario can be a bit of a misguided claim. For instance the topic of this debate is [color=f7941d][i]"If it does not concern my character, or is not a GM post, it does not necessarily need to be read."[/i][/color] As I said before I believe this to be false. To back up that claim please keep in mind how the size of the post, whether it is 2 paragraphs or 20, should not not factor into this equasion, so that includes Free Roleplayers all the way through to Advance. The GM could have quite possibly given some important information to a player for them to write about in their post, so wouldn't you become the fool if you did not take note of something quite important. On top of all this I believe it's just simple respect, give and take, on the belief that your post will be read by your fellow players. Also want to tackle the bad roleplayer comment and that connection to elitism... Someone can be both a great story teller and a horrible roleplayer. I know of some people that are bad roleplayers ([url=https://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/4298840]like the player that edited out ALL my collab work from OUR collaboration without telling me[/url]) but for me to state that they are bad roleplayers may not be not an opinion, but a fact. Does this mean it is an elitist view? Not always. [/quote] Well, I agreed with you both initially that you should indeed read all posts. However I think it's the definition of words we're disagreeing on. [b]Roleplayer: Role-playing refers to the changing of one's behaviour to assume a role, either unconsciously to fill a social role, or consciously to act out an adopted role.[/b] Roleplaying is made up of many parts. Being able to write in character, being able to make a good character, posting well, etc. Reading other posts is an adult, responsible thing to do. You should do it. But it doesn't make a bad roleplayer, because as above, they can be better than you at making a character, better than you a staying in character, better than you at posting, etc. That's why I think it's an elitist thing to say, because one peg of what they do you don't like, which means they're off the definition of roleplaying, which is just not factual. Now, I think we're all in agreement that if someone just doesn't want to put effort into the roleplay you're in, they shouldn't be in the roleplay. But in our heads for the sake of argument, we see two different scenarios. If you're a GM, you see someone who missed something and thinks "this person does not put in the effort, gtfo." I'm more talking about if someone gets overwhelmed and they have a bad day or something. As long as it's not a recurring theme and they don't mess up the RP I GM, then cool. They got overwhelmed, they'll do better next time. If they don't, then we have a problem. Although that's a very sympathetic view for a certain scenario, granted. But perhaps I RP with people who I trust more, I suppose. At the end of the day, I am saying this: Is it ok to not want people to join your RP if they don't read every post thoroughly? Of course. If they don't, are they bad at RPing? No, it's not that black and white.