[quote=@CollectorOfMyst] [@The Mad Hatter] They're both expressions of love, and both mean you're going to dedicate your life to someone else. But one is for the two of you, and only the two of you. So I'm going to tell you to enjoy it. [sub]I must be really low on sleep... I haven't had a date in my entire life and I'm trying to give love advice! Granted I'm only 17... ugh, I'm so tired...[/sub] [/quote] I guess the big difference for me is the fact that my daughter actually has a different father. Long story short, I got pregnant by accident, we decided to keep the baby and he decided that he changed his mind, when it was too late. He's never had any contact with her and doesn't want to, either. So having a kid with someone isn't a vow of staying together forever; my fiancé even said yesterday that when we got married, we couldn't just break up anymore. We went through hell with our son, because, first, it took almost a year and two miscarriages to finally get a baby that decided to stick around and then he was born 4 months prematurely, making him one of the youngest surviving babies ever. For the first two months of his life, we constantly thought we were gonna lose him. It really took a toll on our relationship and there was a lot of times where we were both sure that we couldn't make it through, but we did and our relationship is stronger than ever. Oh. Wow. Sorry for telling you my whole life story...