[quote=@The 42nd Gecko] Almost all the characters who are giving up on the war/desperately trying a new angle are collectively doing so because they're tired of getting their shit wrecked by Vassals and Vassal-tier threats who are above the scale allowed to PCs. Henry, Fran, and Miyu's reasons for going "well, this is pointless" can basically be summarized Juno and a little bit of Eos. [/quote] Vassals weren't supposed to be a thing in this RP. But then Hoho showed up. And then Titanica wanted to be a character. And then things rolled from there. It happens. *Shrugs* The only ones that should be in combat are Juno and Titanica. [quote=@The 42nd Gecko] I maintain that the worst thing to happen to this roleplay, was when Juno showed up, and half the playerbase suddenly jumped in power to try and fight her, and the other half stayed true to their characters, resulting in basically halving the pool of people who could enjoy fighting each other. Juno's an interesting character, but she wrecked the power balance when she showed up. [/quote] Meh. KoL wanted to use a character. Can't deny a GM their fun. And it's not like Juno hasn't improved in the long run or been barred from entering battles.