[quote=@The 42nd Gecko] [@KoL] I wanted to leave and regroup. I was saying "Hey, everybody, let's pretend to retreat, and regroup outside and attack again" And then you stated "If you leave the factory, the battle is over" and so we tried staying, and that didn't go well. We wanted to retreat to outside the factory, up until the point you said "retreating loses the battle". [/quote] Retreating means running away from the battle. There's no way Eos would let them fall back and regroup. Anytime you ask to retreat you are asking to flee the battle, otherwise, if you just wanna regroup, you can do it through IC actions, not theoretical questions about fake surrender. What you asked me was to forfeit. The next time you want to regroup, do it with IC actions, not asking if you can leave the battle. [quote=@Lucius Cypher] Eh, ya gotta pick your battles Gecko. Unfortunately, this is another one we can't win. [/quote] I'm only pointing facts. Not even a single word of what I said is meant to "crush the opposition". Regardless of that, you know when you are losing a debate when you have to start nitpicking topics that have already been explained more than once. The GMs behaved badly? Yes we did, because we aren't perfect, we can commit mistakes like any human being. Nevertheless, we acknowledged out errors and are working as much as we can to make up for them. Just try to point me a single time we haven't been transparent and tried to alert the players about bad choices in this RP in the last semester, or so? I acknowledge that I was wrong in a lot of things, but you all trying to pull a straw man will not result on anything. I'm doing what I can to make things interesting and so is Windel? Why is it that whenever you all have to complain about something you bring back the old issues, instead of leaving them be, like we are? You'll me not see us complaining about your past mistakes, you could as well try to do the same.