[quote=@ProPro] All perfectly fair, and I can acknowledge your criticisms. Allow me to rebut a number of them. The statement of "he should be dead" was not third person omniscient perspective, it was third person limited from Motley's perspective. As such, it was inherently flawed and skewed in his mindset. Additionally, Runch is explicitly stated to be able to take ungodly amounts of punishment in his CS, as well as being from the world of One Piece where that's the sort of thing that happens all the time. In regards to the catacombs having been moved, fair enough, but the OOC still has them listed in Oldtown so you should update that to avoid future confusion. Not all of us can read every update made by every player to have been able to catch that detail. As for Erina getting there, that was left open ended on purpose to give us both opportunities to describe it in the third round. He had blacked out for a while there (not intended to be a few minutes, more like minimum an hour). Re: Hamon and air floating, fair enough, If I made that mistake, then I apologize. I didn't see it listed on the Jojo wiki for ripple powers, but I was going with a statement that BC made previously since it was his character. If that breaks the power's canon, then it's my critical research failure and I own that. Also it was my understanding that "lightning mode" was Motley using actual electricity, not his dark ripple, so if what you say is true that my version of events would have him "charred and rotted black by an overwhelming infusion of corrupted hamon" then that was not my understanding of that particular ability at all, which again I'll totally own. Perhaps BC can clarify that himself. Of course if you don't think any of these points change anything, then that's perfectly fine. I am aware that I went real hard into the "Runch takes massive damage" direction because, well, that's historically what he's done in the stories I've written for him. But this is a different sort of setting and if I have to make peace with that, so be it. [/quote] [quote=@BCTheEntity] [@Lugubrious] Actually, there is a scene in the Phantom Blood anime where the Ripple master Dire uses his Ripple to hover in the air, which is explicitly noted by Dio. Don't know if that translates to the manga as well, but it is at least an option for them, albeit not one I see Crue using when his foe can properly fly via cereal expulsion. As for Runch hobbling away, I do have an idea in my head regarding how he could keep fighting in the next round, assuming my version pulls through. No spoilers, though. [/quote] Thank you both for the clarification. Typically, I do these as much to get further insight as to offer an opinion. The note I missed on Runch's endurance in particular, as well as forgetting about Lightning Mode, are significant mistakes on my part. As for Dire, I also totally forgot about that floating bit. I went back and checked, and sure enough, he floats.