[quote=@Sanctus Spooki]
It's so easy to simply label a character that you don't like to be a Mary Sue, and even easier when you toss away the actual definition of a Mary Sue, and substitute your own. It makes it so that any character that you don't like, whether it be that you think they are too attractive, too smart, or that everybody likes them - which you can hardly fault a single person for in the case of roleplay - And its even easier when you read a simple detail and make your own explanation...
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[@Sanctus Spooki] obviously the assertions made by [@pugbutter] aren't entirely veracious, as there are always exceptions to culturally established "rules" in subjective fields, but I think that their post is full of insight and very well written. It is certainly unfair to compare their post to a remark as simple as "a Mary Sue is any character whose personality traits I dislike", especially given that their claims are rooted in objective evidence (such as the ability to easily attract other characters despite lacking the traits found in every other "attractive" character in the work).

This isn't to say that your specific example is wrong either. I don't have any prior knowledge of the RP that you mentioned or of your character, but based on your description I wouldn't think straightaway that your character is a Mary Sue (although I would have to see for myself if the way you roleplayed the character in writing is truly representative of the light in which you portrayed them in your post here). Context is important in these kinds of discussions, especially when people feel like certain criticisms might be unfairly aimed at them. However, I'd say that you are waaaaay off-base by insinuating that [@pugbutter] is somehow manipulating the definition of "Mary Sue" for their own vendetta. They are simply taking a more nuanced approach to analyzing the character traits that make up such a prevalent trope by pointing out the trend of novice writers using "false flaws" as a means of dodging the typical "Mary Sue" claim. It is only natural to assume that the definition of the term should evolve as people begin to exploit its obvious loopholes.

Edit: Also, you really aren't helping yourself by being super defensive about the term. That attitude only serves to erode your ethos. You'd be better off actually trying to dismantle your opponent's assertions (good luck, they're pretty solid) than just calling them immature.

[quote=@Sanctus Spooki]
I'm sorry is this where we vent our roleplaying annoyances, or where we engage in debate?

Edit: Oh and Kettle, meet Pot.
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Edit2: Well this section of the forum is called "Roleplaying Discussion"