[quote=@Sanctus Spooki]and I never said that he was manipulating anything for a personal vendetta.[/quote] Are you sure about that? Maybe you should explain what you meant when you said this, then: [quote=@Sanctus Spooki]It's so easy to simply label a character that you don't like to be a Mary Sue, and even easier when you toss away the actual definition of a Mary Sue, and substitute your own ... you can cover up the personal bias you hold against them behind some overused criticism like 'Mary Sue/Gary Stu'[/quote] It sounds to me like you think I'm pretty damn sinister.