[@KoL]
Actually, I'd appreciate some clarity where the roses are concerned.

There seems to be some overlap between the mind-altering effects of the Oblivion Dungeon and the effect of Helena's rose pollen stuff. Is the effect of the Dungeon only there because of the roses, or are the roses enhancing an already present effect, or what? Surely Helena can't spend all of her time sitting in the Oblivion Dungeon taking care of the plants.