[quote=@Turboshitter] Hmmmmmmm... honestly, I'm not quite sure what to make of this right now. I don't really object to Benkei when taken as a whole, however I'm not fond of the FC or the way Dread Visage is being utilized here. I get that it suits his legend, but the way it does next to nothing feels a bit tacked on. Alright, how about this. I'll allow Dread Visage to inflict a stat penalty on the afflicted, but in exchange, True!Benkei should have the same stats as Fake!Benkei, or he should at least have the same STR and END. Is that agreeable, [@Cu Chulainn] and [@vancexentan]? [/quote] I'm already down to reduce his Strength and I edited it in, but his Endurance is something I'd like him to keep. He's supposed to be a defensive threat, anyway and not an offensive one. As for his Dread Visage skill, I just came up with something in the realm of making it more balanced by saying the fear is from the magic of his presumed Oni heritage, which would make Magic Resistance work against it. [quote=@vancexentan] [@Cu Chulainn]Lu Bu is literally the embodiment of terror in the early three kingdoms period. The dude doesn't have a skill of that sort either. Turbo has convinced me to loose my stance on the matter and just let it through regardless but I still believe it is unwarranted. Because unlike his Diarmuid's lovespot it effects everyone, and magical resistance doesn't cancel it out only remote skills like bravery, or madness enhancement do. Edit: as for stats I am still adamant that strength be demoted to B. He isn't a Greek, or roman super hero, and he's not a super knight like a charlamange paladin, or a knight of the round table. [/quote] The only Lu Bu we've seen in Fate was a Berserker who was already said to be modified in some way due to the nature of his summoning, addded with the fact that Mad Enhancement seals Personal Skills.