Y'know, I think 2000 is covered. But I can't help but feel this needs a reply. [quote=UniB] I won't lie, I haven't read all the posts, because I would catch sentences and make me flinch[/quote] Looks like we're on the same boat. [quote]Truth is, when you're your average-looking, maybe not that attractive female, and you try to integrate a new group... It's difficult.If you're a male, I'm sorry - but it'll be very hard for you to put yourselves in a female's shoes.[/quote] That's odd, I find this rather... Silly. I've spent a good year backpacking and occasion travel on my own. This means that to have any social contacts, you need to approach individuals or groups of people you don't know. I've approached a dozen of people. Hell, I've held a sales job. What it, in my experience comes down to, is that guys generally have a higher risk/reward ratio to mingling; something that drives them to either get better at mixing with new people or to stop trying. Girls have an incubation time, even if you don't look like *insert visually attractive celebrity here* Guys generally have to make-do with first impressions. Even when you did get into a conversation, generally for people it's far easier not to invite 'that awkward guy' than 'that awkward girl'. Especially in a mixed group. Rather than going 'woe is me' for the first couple times you strike out though, you quickly learn that it's far more productive to simply change your approach and work on your attitude. I came from a rather exclusive group of high school friends, so meeting new kinds of people was hard. So there I am in a foreign environment, a 20 hour flight away from home. I didn't really have anywhere to crawl back to though, I didn't even have internet. tl;dr I didn't have a choice but to get better at meeting people. Here's what I learned; don't get discouraged by a few bad experiences. Just keep at it. The better you get at it, the better your chance of getting a yes. And what do you know; I did get better and more comfortable at approaching people. I can even be an arrogant dick while doing it, hell, that's how I introduce myself. [quote]If you deny there is any sexism, you're either purposely avoiding realizing it, or you're so exposed to this kind of behaviour that you don't even realize that it is there. [/quote] There's discrimination everywhere. Gender, ideology, race, accent, education, etc. If you're on the receiving end this generally makes... Well, a lot of things harder. Try getting a job when you have dreadlocks and a beard (arguably these make interviews a lot more difficult than say, having a vagina.) Here's a secret though; just because something is harder doesn't mean it's impossible. It doesn't mean you have to swallow your identity or beliefs. It means you have to change your approach. At worst you have to get a haircut or wear a different shirt. Unless of course, you live in a patriarchy. [quote]Because those communities used to be the outcasts, and that now they're the new kind of cool "uncool" kids, it's not the same thing as 20 years ago. There are trends, and looking/acting like a nerd/geek is one of them. I suppose this is why so many males have such a hard time accepting new females, or acknowledging that they might actually be more of a veteran. Because it used to be such an exclusive community, the kind where you need to know someone else in order to be part of it. It's like how most people think gamers are males, because it's how our sexist culture works - things for boys, things for girls.[/quote] Yeah, it's a new thing. People will get used to it soon enough. Not so much because of feminism, but more because of ;"Yeah I'm a girl, but what you should be more worried about is BOOM HEADSHOT. Check dat killstreak bitches." Seriously, that'll get you a lot more respect. It's true that gaming and geek culture has mostly been a male-dominated culture, but that also means it values competition. Kick enough ass and people will have no choice but to respect you. Except maybe some teenagers. But guess what. Puberty does that. [quote] I am sorry if I offend anyone, but even if I wouldn't be a feminist, I would still get a bitter laugh at most of the responses here. Saying that you don't think there is any actual discrimination towards genders is simply being naive and ignorant. Refusing to see inequalities is the best way to perpetuate them.Everyone's allowed to their opinions, but it comes a time where you have to make a distinction between your personal opinion and actual facts and statistics. It's not because you haven't experienced it as a male that it doesn't exist or doesn't happen to females.[/quote] Go into any PvP game and see what shit people yell at one another. Here's a small revelation; most of these people assume everyone is a guy. I think guys are generally a lot harder on each other. Even in my MMO-days, you didn't want to PUG as a male priest. People would make their priest female because they had at least a chance of others assuming they were girls. At this time gender-shielding was far more accepted than what I gather it is now, though. [quote] Just quoting one of the most famous internet quotes: Tits or GTFO! [/quote] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g__PSej5uFw/TmI2SsDy6PI/AAAAAAAAC9I/9gUB232rHFM/s1600/two+great+tits.jpg[/img]