[quote=@Cu Chulainn] [@1Charak2][@vancexentan] Sorry [@vancexentan], I only tagged Turbo because he wasn't online at the time I posted Lancer's sheet. I believe his third NP reasonably belongs there mainly due to the fact that it's fairly easy to kill, anyway. His horse isn't like a normal Rider's mount, so it doesn't get beefed up stats, and it only serves as extra transportation in a fight. It's basically one of those "one and done" Noble Phantasms that will probably only see the light of day to one, maybe two fights overall in the span of the entire Holy Grail War. As for why it rivals Balmung in power, it is because of its false divine nature. While it is still a mockery of a divine authority, it still imitates it to some effect. He was seen and partially worshipped as a Sun God, after all. Added with how he razed a bunch of temples and is famous for being a dick (which is why you don't learn about him in history class), I'd come to believe that an attack based off of pure destruction of that magnitude would be pretty formitable. [@MeteorD] The reason why Artoria doesn't have a high rank in Riding is because she has no legends regarding her mounting anything, and only has the skill because she's a knight trained in it. Pedro on the other hand does have one notable legend about him riding a horse, which is seen in his third NP. Plus, when Artoria is summoned as a Lancer, she gets an A-rank in Riding along with her own (nothing special) horse [/quote] Wheres his low ranking divinity? Due to those believing him to be the sun god incarnate. That usually grants low divinity. Seems like an interesting thing to leave absent considering he seems based more on his legend of being a god of the sun in terms of attacks.