[quote=@Lemons] [@RedGentleman] It's less "Mexican food made with French ingredients" and more "Mexican food made with Mexican ingredients and then also adding some French ingredients," as it doesn't lose any cyberpunk before the addition of fantasy elements. The rest of those examples see flawed, as in order for them to make sense, something from the original medium, i.e. contemporary English, would have to be lost. It is fundamentally cyberpunk, but other mechanisms have been added. It doesn't actually lose any of the original cyberpunk. From any metric I've seen, cyberpunk isn't measured by whether there is inclusion of elves and magic, but whether the fundamentals of cyberpunk itself are present. [/quote] In that case, I would direct you to American culture as a more complete allegory, since you seem to be missing the point, old friend. I certainly wouldn't call American culture, even in the early/mid 1800s, British culture. The base does not define the whole, as the introduction of such non-belonging elements—Irish culture, black culture, Eastern culture; orcs, elves, magic—change both the nature and the action of a world. In America, we get the melting pot phenomenon, complete with all its diversities, tensions, and nuances that make it so distinct from its homogenous Anglican base. In cyberpunk, the addition of fantasy elements creates new issues, new approaches to old issues, and warps the culture into something not dissimilar but nonetheless unique. Edit: Upon further consideration, I direct you thusly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox suggest that we stop wasting these good people's time with our insipid debate.