[quote=@Nytem4re]I'd argue this is a fallacy, [u]the slippery slope fallacy in fact.[/u] Offering actual criticism, constructive criticism like this thread will not harm the guild in any irreplaceable or major way. You're attempting to dissuade any dialogue about moderation policies out of a misguided belief that it will lead to community damage. 

i.e. a domino effect, which honestly... isn't true.

Exhibit A, Grim's banned post that went wayyyy out of line and was actually somewhat malicious. Where is the downfall of the guild community after that thread? And note this was an extremely toxic post, one that actually had intent of harming the community somewhat.

Nothing... ever really happened.[/quote]
That’s a fair point. However, this does imply that all of the criticism is [i]constructive[/i]. I certainly believe some of Cynder’s points are legitimate and it is a means to constructively gather an answer for the situation at large – but I’m not just talking about this thread.

You mentioned Grimhildr/Wade Wilson’s thread, good. But we happen to fundamentally disagree on our conclusions on its impact and relevance. Grim might’ve gone out with a pocketful of dynamite but I don’t think there aren’t effects of any kind for their insistence on leaving the guild as they did or the users who kept [i]re-posting[/i] the thread in question to get it [i]seen[/i] and to spread dissent rather than have a productive dialogue with staff about principal trust issues between them and certain individuals. Which is exactly what happened. I believe that it did do [i]something[/i] as opposed to your [i]nothing[/i] as tensions rise and distrust is manufactured between members and staff.

It’s fine if you disagree since I really don’t have any evidence that this has happened, but given conversations in discord and some of the replies in this thread as well as some private correspondence between myself and friends of mine it’s obviously triggered something. Re-posting threads and dragging moderator’s names through the mud for a personal grievance is a way to exasperate this and I’m afraid that albeit in the short term that is exactly what is going to happen. 

If I’m wrong then good, but I think there are some very valid concerns given the schism of sorts that has plagued our website. Making things a public discussion when you are accusing key members of things is a dangerous precedent. My views are different than yours and even my contemporaries on the site. But no, I am not trying to dissuade constructive criticism and I truly hope I am wrong that this is going to do more harm than good. I just want to be clear that this is a clusterfuck situation with various problems, problems on the right and the left of the fence.

[quote=@Nytem4re]If anything it's fear mongering and a poor excuse to shut down actual meaningful conversation.[/quote]
Nah, I’m not try to incite fear or shut down [i]meaningful[/i] conversation. This is under the presumption this will be a meaningful conversation going forward, I am merely criticizing the critique as it were. The main point of my argument isn’t “don’t speak your mind ever!”, a suggestion I detest entirely.