[quote=@Cyndyr] I was under the impression that this was a discussion, is it not? I meant no harm with the creation of this topic and I personally believe that it has begun to reflect positively on the forums overall as it shows a willingness in the community to communicate and change. I will own and take ownership for any negativity that has been caused by the creation of this topic, otherwise, I simply see this message as an attempt to shift blame onto me.[/quote] My intention is not to shift blame as I included the staff as well, but to see if you aware of the gravity of these discussions and how there is a very fine line between civil and uncivil. While this thread has been positive it does contain roots that extend back to unfavoured events of the past. Already I have seen Poo [url=https://www.roleplayerguild.com/posts/4412094]comment[/url] with a reply where he felt he really had to explain what it was he was saying without people reading between the lines or taking it out of context. [quote=@Cyndyr] I do acknowledge, however, that you are right and I should have simply spoken with Ruby which is an action that I do apologize for. It was an action that I believe would have resulted in further damage, but based on what Ruby herself has said on this thread, then I realize that the outcome may have been opposite from what I had initially expected. With that in mind, I do appreciate both you and Ruby coming forward to join the discussion as well as investigating Nyte's ban. [/quote] I appreciate your honesty and acknowledgment. [quote=@Nytem4re] [@NuttsnBolts] So if pug wasn't banned for having a quote from another moderator (not saying i condone it) why did J8cob get banned subsequently? Seems like they should have gotten the same treatment. And honestly, I don't like how you pin this all on Cynder as if she was the only one taking screenshots. If I remember correctly you did as well in the past. You are not as innocent as you portray yourself. [/quote] At this point in time I do not see a quote of Ruby in his signature and so there is no need to take action. He held one before but I believe you and I can agree that if we addressed that in the same manner as J8cob we would be in a worse position than currently. Still, my explination for J8cob making his appeal is to set a proper understanding of how bans should be treated if they were unjust. By doing that we also have a record trail so we can keep forum matters logged correctly and not just word of mouth. As for the screenshots by Cyndyr, I acknowledge that she was not in the original dispute but over time she became involved, I am not disputing that I did take and obtain some screenshots, but I will state that I was not the one who started the screenshots, that I did not share the ones from the staff discussion, and that instead of participating in these actions we have on multiple fronts made mountains out of molehills.