[quote=@pugbutter][@inkarnate] You think a private Discord channel being discontent with the current state of the website, gathering evidence to support these grievances (ie. screenshots), and vocally expressing their opinions is a "dangerous precedent." Whereas mods decrying this behavior and, in the same breath, sending forth their little spies to engage in it, is not hypocritical at all. Because of a meme fallacy? It's certainly an equivalency, but not a false one. I begin to suspect you're just using big words and hoping their academic airs will intimidate the meanieheads back into their dark corner without putting up any more of a fight. You also either didn't read the thread, or, while attempting to read it, failed to comprehend its contents, as evidenced in the fact that you're still persuaded that [@Nytem4re] is only here to "sow dissent," spread drama, and otherwise watch the site burn. I guess it's impossible that he feels like his and his friend's bans were unjust, seeing as how the mods are perfect and above having to follow their own rules. [/quote] You were not currently a user in that chat when the events transpired in May, so I can understand you thinking that individuals were sent to gather information but this is not the case. I was friendly acquaintances with the group at the time and had joined Valhalla under my own free will – I’m sure many will remember that I had openly criticized certain staff members at the time, so I was not a “shill” or “patsy” and certainly not a spy. I simply came to a conclusion that was in opposition to the group at the time and tried to reason with everyone to not create a bonafide witch-hunt when Ruby was appointed (which I will say Cynder also tried to quell herself, she did few things wrong at the time). The mods did not send spies is basically what I am saying here. No, I comprehended the contents, I just fundamentally disagree on the issue.