[quote=@Lucius Cypher] Nat one implies I failed. Helena and Lucille has a good reason to defame Endian, but this is just a build up to a more open and honest proposal from someone who's never really been a known liar or deceiver to those present, unlike those who's modus involves trickery and misdirection. [/quote] No offense, but you probably just failed. Henry isn't going to join just so he can become a Machina slave, at this point either he'll stick with Helena or start his own revolution if he has to. He's especially not going to join the Machina if he remembers/Helena tells him that Eos wiped Artoria out of existence.