[quote=@Etcetera] I thought you hated 2D Sonic? [/quote] I don't [i]hate[/i] it. I have a complicated relationship with it. Similar in that way to Arin, but a totally different kind. The 3d games were brilliant for their time, I just don't like that people want to throw out everything after, even the few amazing games (which always end up getting the worst reception for some reason, not counting 06) and want to go back to games that were very clearly products of their era and not "timeless" in the sense that they can just keep being remade. I also really don't like the idea of trying to mix 2d and 3d Sonics, ESPECiALLY the way Generations did it, and don't like how many times they've re-released the same fucking things over and over again to cash in on the crowd of morons who think anything after 3 is bad just because it's not a fucking Genesis game. I don't like that Mania is reusing levels from the old games, but from what I've seen so far, there's a very real possibility that they made it plot relevant, which is the only way they could possibly justify that shit, and they clearly made them from the ground up, changing them at least slightly each time. I like the barely 3d emerald game, though I dislike that there's a medal system with the old terrible orbs minigame. I'm incredibly worried that they did something with the plot changing based on medals, and I'm worried that they might have tried too hard and done to the Super Emeralds what Generations did to the canons. (I do not know if the Super Emeralds are actually in Mania, so that's not a spoiler to mention.) I hate that the best games always get the worst feedback from the "fans," and the good or decent games always get held up to a perfect standard of "what 3d Sonic should be" when they're NOT among the best of them and/or half of them are just 2d with 3d models *cough colors cough*. I don't like that they're making Mania be directly after 3, not counting CD's ambiguous placement, because that just makes the canon lines even more blurred and confusing. The reason I want Mania so badly is BECAUSE I'm so distrustful of it. Having been writing Torn, basically Sonic fanfiction, for at this point the vast majority of my lifespan, I'm one of the few people who the timelines and canon lines really matter to, and Mania has this perfect opportunity to either destroy them entirely or make them fit again after Generations fucked everything up. I don't think GG are going to do the plot justice since it's fucking Arin playing, and unlike the first 3 games the plot is complicated enough to need hands-on experience for. I also dislike that they chose to make a 2d game that's just a better resolution version of a game that belongs on the Genesis when they could have been working on a new, bugless, good 3d game or another fucking Sonic Chronicle game, or A FUCKING SONIC BATTLE 2, or remastering the last two Riders games since they banked them on shitty tech that ruins the games when Riders was one of the best racing games [i]ever[/i], or fucking making Sonic's Sister 1X years after it was cancelled, or any other [i]new[/i] things they could do to move forward, rather than just a new Sonic 3 bumped up and given a plot fitting of a newer game. There are just so many missed opportunities that they didn't do in order to appease the people who only like Sonic because their nostalgia is overwhelming or because they really want mario but just don't think mario maker is fast enough. I'm super psyched about the new resolution sprites as someone who used to do sprites (poorly) and probably will go back to the Middle Ground at some point, but the fact that they were made by an official team is bothersome. There's a lot of complicated shit between me and 2d Sonic, especially Mania.