[quote=@Inkarnate] It’s a third party chat that takes membership from this website, influences this community, and therefore doesn’t really exist in its own vacuum. It was brought up because it add context to certain events that transpired that led to the point of which we are now at. It's a complex situation. Relevance can be argued for or against, but just wanted to clear up where I fall on the question. [/quote] I am sorry but you believe that it influences the community? [i]How?[/i] It is just a server where members of the guild gather to talk about staff. And it's also a place where we can talk about anything and everyone without any worries of getting banned. You made it a big deal when you leaked chatlogs to the staff because you were worried about Ruby. Hell, I haven't really seen everyone wanting Ruby to be banned for the site. Many of them just want Ruby (and Nutts) to be punished for their actions by staff members. Sadly, their actions have been defended by other staff members. In short, I don't agree with you that Valhalla has enough power to influence the site. If you believe it does, then please explain to me why you think that. [quote=@Hank] If you thought my earlier post was vitriolic I implore you to reconsider your knowledge of the meaning of that word, but fear not -- I'll educate you on its meaning right now. Many of the points raised in this thread are valid. Yours are not. I don't appreciate your sensationalism and I'd prefer if you just keep out of the conversation entirely if you can't manage a reasonable level of discourse... ...What the fuck are you talking about? Do you have the slightest idea how the internet works? And are you seriously implying that he go read a book written about war to learn how to administrate a hobbyist internet forum? [/quote] Just because [@RWBY Spectre] presented his points in an untasteful manner doesn't mean that he can't be a part of the discussion. I understand that you would be upset if someone attacked your friend (Mahz) like that; but, we should look at it with a clear mind. RWBY Spectre was just saying that Mahz should be more active while all of this is going on. He clearly didn't know that Mahz was seriously sick and he was only suggesting you to read a book to have a "positive attitude" based on the comment that RWBY Spectre had quoted. I don't agree on how he presented it; however, it doesn't mean he should be shun. He has every right to be apart of the discussion. You should already know that since you have earned Co-Admin by being respectful of other peoples' opinions. No matter how much you disagree with them. I do have a question for you, [@Sherlock Holmes]. Why aren't you active enough with the community? Based on my time here, I have only seen you on to do your job as moderator. I can understand if you are too busy with work or school to be more active. It would be nice to see you spending more time with the community while you aren't doing your jobs. Then again, I am not here to demand you to be more active. It is just a suggestion/question after all. And I also have some questions for [@Kangaroo]. Why did you come back from your retirement? I could understand if you came back to hang out with the other users; but, why did you accept your old moderator position? Aren't you worried that you will be inactive again like last time (before you announced your retirement)? I am not trying to sound like an ass. I am just worried. And one more thing, did Hank approached you and asked if you wanted to be a moderator again? Or did the opposite happen? [b]EDIT: Fixed up some minor errors.[/b]