[quote=@j8cob appeal 2]P.S. [@Inkarnate] just because you try to word yourself eloquently or politely doesn't mean you haven't been "combative and antagonistic" yourself. Discreetly hostile isn't much better than openly hostile. Just wanted to point that out since the phrasing you used and others repeated bothered me a little. It applies to more people than just you and moreso to some of them. I probably don't need to name them, they aren't difficult to guess. I'd be on the list too if I cared to persecute myself.
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That’s a very good point, [abbr=clarified some things in the second half of the post regarding this and I do admit fault]but my “ousting” of the aforementioned server wasn’t done in the name of hostility just for the record.[/abbr] I answered a question that asked to me directly and a good amount of people didn’t like the question which is definitely fine. My opinion of the situation is exceptionally biased and are observations based on the perspective that is extensively critical, but such [i]wrongful[/i] actions I criticized I did admit to involvement within. Like I posted in the status I find it peculiar people are upset of an answer when they asked the question. I’m more awake now and have a clearer mind so [i]I’m looking over my previous posts to see if I were emotionally compromised or wrong in my own rhetoric.[/i] 

Also, I appreciate Gareth’s posts, but I don’t need someone to play moral defender of me or my actions. I don’t need a stuffed animal to hug because mean inclinations will hurt my feelings.

On the subject of Grimhildr I never suggested they were indoctrinated but simply their purview radically changed within a short time thus equating that people she were around influenced her and by extension her actions greatly. Just because I think Valhalla had a [i]role[/i] to play in all of this and I criticized that role doesn’t mean I want to slanderize or “go after” the server. And also, writing off my [u]entirely subjective[/u] stance as bait is rather flimsy but I can understand emotions were running time at the time of the post. This had nothing to do with me “running with the tail between my legs” or inflaming members of a third party community because no emotions are hurt. I’ve buried that and I think everyone going forward should bury it just the same. As I respect discourse, I will reply to some key points that were written whilst I was sleeping.

[quote=@The Spectre]And I don't think that it was bad. People were rightfully upset by Ruby's action and demanded that she was punished. It sounds fair to me. It isn't bad to ask why the staff isn't doing anything about the whole Ruby situation. Do you think it's bad?[/quote]
Yes, due to a variety of reasons. It’s not that people were upset about a staff appointment, but more that they were trying to plan ways to remove her due to strictly emotional dissonance.  

[quote=@The Spectre]I hope that you have some examples that directly links to Valhalla? I can understand if you are talking about Grim but it sounds like you are talking about other people besides Grim.[/quote]
Understand this observation was during my time in Valhalla and not its current state of affairs. It also happens to be an observation that is entirely subject to what I think about a popular server loosely connected to the site spreading what we could call crass and filterless decorum to the point it was making certain behaviors popularly acceptable. This is also something that cannot be objectively measured, but you did want my answer to the question of how Valhalla fits into things subjective (and prospectively wrong) or not, correct? 

[quote=@The Spectre]Please tell me an example where someone was targeted by members of Valhalla.
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Did anyone target people beyond the blacklist by my memory? I don’t think so. But I didn’t say they went beyond their server and antagonized anyone directly. My point is Valhalla impact on the community is distinct and measureable, not that it has made a conspiracy to attack users beyond its inner confines and should be 'shut down' or some other sentiment. Your central idea was that it is just a chatroom with users to talk about the staff of the site, no? Ultimately, after re-reading all of this I have come to the conclusion that I have no fucking idea how I went from [i]How do you think Valhalla impacts the site[/i] to effectively answers [i]Why do you think Valhalla is issue[/i]. You did not ask me that question and I just sort of loosely answered your question before misdirecting it which is an asinine tactic that is not only idiotic but intellectually dishonest. While I still believe what I believe there is no explanation or excuse for that kind of misdirect.

Apologies.

With that, I’d like to publicly clarify and correct something Hillan inferred – that I’m projecting feelings of members. I do not currently have any feelings about the people involved only actions done retrospectively. I have no problems with Odin or his friends and acquaintances despite misdirecting in a discussion when I should not have. Just because I criticize it does not mean I am currently in discontent; same with people here who have constructively had issues with staff policy. Beyond that, I am glad this is all sorted out and the only reason I replied is I said I would respond to points directed at me in the name of equal dialogue. [u]If anyone wants to continue this discussion it probably would be better suited away from the thread as I much like everyone else do not want to deconstruct the work done here from [i]all sides[/i] to effectively end the issues present. My PM and DM boxes are [i]open.[/i] I will not ignore them.[/u]