[quote=@Cu Chulainn] Modifiers doubled stats? I'm fairly certain that in Fate, modifiers call for situational boosts, and are treated as a Rank-Up, and not an x2, in most cases. Then again, I'm not sure how modifiers are treated here. [/quote] If you look at the table of numbers. A single + modifier allows you to temporarily double the stat. (B+ actually being higher then A in a burst) and then a ++ modifier triples and a +++ modifier quadruples. So yea. Because of that and how your luck table works A+ can burst pass all luck checks. So actually another way of doing it with this info is to basically... E = 1 E+ = 3 E++ = 5 E+++ = 7 D=3 D+=5 D++=7 D+++=9 C=5 C+=8 C++=11 C+++=13 B=7 B+=10 B++=13 B+++=16 A=9 A+=12 A++=15 A+++=18 This better fits with a plus modifier actually reaching into the rank above with that 'burst' since thats usually when you'd do it on a luck check. Still it causes an issue so.... heres the numbers again but a bit more sense