[quote=@Fabricant451] The President might not be responsible for the rise of the 'alt-left' but he certainly hasn't helped the situation. Weirdly when someone in a position of power starts demonstrating things reminiscent of fascism, people start claiming said person in power is possibly a fascist. There's been a stupid and weird 'war' between left and right since before the election, only before the election it was from right side shit stirrers up in arms over lefties wanting to get rid of free speech because they dare to say that saying nigger and faggot and words like that are not cool. It was a lot of Chicken Little shit and now that they have a disorganized mess of a group like Antifa running around it's like vindication. I don't think Antifa is going about it correctly at all but it's hard for me to think of them as worse than, you know, white supremacists and Nazis. And saying they're equally bad is disingenuous. [/quote] Can you direct me to an example of fascism displayed by the current President of the United States? And yes, censoring free speech immediately invalidates it as free speech. I might not agree with calling someone a "faggot" just because it is an attack on their character rather than their opinion, but there is no such thing as "hate speech". You have to take the totality of what free speech entails across the entire spectrum, good or bad, and accept that by and large the weight of having no limit on what can be said - not done, as that is different - is for the better. Antifa certainly is worse by the numbers than your modern day white supremacists and Neo-Nazis. Both have no place in the United States acting with any sort of violence, but as it stands, more damage has steadily been done in recent years by the rise of the Far Left. This is not to say the other faction is innocent - we know a man still ran over a crowd of people with a car - but there's far more articles of this domestic terrorist group and its relatives doing everything from trying to murder part of congress for political reasons, hosting organized riots, attempting to shutdown subways by chaining doors shut, assaulting people with deadly weapons, throwing improvised explosives and other dangerous projectiles and so on.