[quote=@Fabricant451] And yet they're still seen as preferable to, you know, the side what has Nazis. [/quote] If America's 'white supremacists' and whatever we call those people are 'nazi's' now then the 1939-1945 fascists must've been space marines because I still find the equation between the two entirely unreasonable, lol. Whatever you guys have in the USA, they're definitely not nazi's, but more like.. idk, cheap water filtrated knock-off nazi's. Probably a result of all the inbreeding. Actually, following 'real' nazi train of thoughts, these people would be nothing less than the parasites of society, and although it may be harsh, would've likely been 'the first people on the train.' Regardless, I think the flaw in your thinking is that 'the right has nazi's ergo the right is wrong' or at the very least, that's how you wrote it here. Whether you honestly believe that, or are just venting your frustration with these people in a generalization, I don't know. But I hope you know that just because their side has nazi's doesn't make that entire side bad, evil or god forbid nazi's themselves. But let's suppose they were - it's not impossible or unthinkable that even a nazi may have good ideas from time to time. [quote=@Fabricant451] The President might not be responsible for the rise of the 'alt-left' but he certainly hasn't helped the situation. Weirdly when someone in a position of power starts demonstrating things reminiscent of fascism, people start claiming said person in power is possibly a fascist. There's been a stupid and weird 'war' between left and right since before the election, only before the election it was from right side shit stirrers up in arms over lefties wanting to get rid of free speech because they dare to say that saying nigger and faggot and words like that are not cool. It was a lot of Chicken Little shit and now that they have a disorganized mess of a group like Antifa running around it's like vindication. I don't think Antifa is going about it correctly at all but it's hard for me to think of them as worse than, you know, white supremacists and Nazis. And saying they're equally bad is disingenuous. [/quote] I've yet to see him do things that are fascist in nature per definition. At most I've seen him compared to.. Professor Snape from Harry Potter, or Voldemort, or whatever. Yeah, that's ground breaking stuff. Errr, I'm still missing a Kristallnacht, or calls to violence, or Trump equating Mexicans to pigs or something. I'm guessing that we could equate the culling of Obama-appointed officials as our night of the long knives, no? The USA will have a (insert name) Putsch. One of their own! And I remember the razzia's where we pulled Mexican citizens of the USA out of their house and deported them to Canada to systematically erase them. Yeah, I can't really imagine that. He's showing conservative and authoritarian tendencies and has a very populist way of speaking, but honestly, equating him to a fascist or a nazi ... seems pretty far off to me, for now at any rate. And perhaps antifa is more easily relatable with, we've fought nazi's before after all so why not do it now, but I'd like to remind you that antifa as an organization is deeply involved with other organizations that employ black bloc strategies (similar to those of antifa) that are not aimed at nazi's or fascists but more so at big business - destroying starbucks, and all that cool stuff. Antifa are not heroes, they are white college kids with a weekend to spare and a desire to be 'woke', or misguided mid-teens people that genuinely think that everyone with a shaven head must be a nazi. Both miss historical awareness.