[quote=@Fabricant451] That's totally fair. It's just easy to paint in broad strokes when one side doesn't shy away from the term and has a somewhat prominent member quoting Nazi propaganda, denouncing Jews, and doing the Nazi salute. [/quote] I mean, both sides are suffering from narrativism. Again, I see what you are saying, but it's easy to forget these people are saying these things because they believe those things and believe Jews are to blame. There's a reason they believe that, and that reason isn't just 'they're cunts' but also because, in many departments, these people have been left behind and feel left behind. For instance, I've seen the remarks that people from the rust belt should just move on and go to college, where these comments come from rich, upper-middle class kids that go to college in very liberal towns. The realization that these people from the rust belt just don't have those same options and often don't even WANT to go to college but would rather work in manual labour isn't there - and as a result, you get two people that become utterly separated, and any understanding that was there fades away. Looking at conservatives/liberals as people is the first step to fixing the problem, NOT beating them up because that, if anything, just makes them believe their points stronger. It has done that so far anyway. But I know you don't believe in beating them up - I'm just commenting on how I think we need to fix the problem (and the USA isn't my country so again, I'm probably very biased). Every ideology has a reasoning, and it's not just irrational hate or fear of jews or other minorities. To dismantle the ideology you need to dismantle the reason for believing in it.