[quote=@The Harbinger of Ferocity] [@Dynamo Frokane], the second time I had heard about James Allsup was when I saw a capture from a Reddit topic, most likely from /redacted/, where it made them out to be their typical mob. I am again, [i]not[/i] speaking to the article. The article you presented is still news to me, as I had only seen focus on the flagpole incident and then the reference to how his opponents went looking through his personal information and what they said they found with that image. I do not make it a point to go searching for more information unless I need it. Hearing people shout in hysteria "racism" and "bigot", that crying wolf, has fallen on deaf ears at this point and I do not exactly trust the Left with any statement they put forward; consider me none too surprised I did not care one way or another what James Allsup is or isn't. It should go without mention, but in this age being overt to the point you cannot be taken out of context has come to mean largely nothing and even something as simple as a thread is not to be trusted. I will continue to be so direct as say, "I do not affiliate with that person or their beliefs.", as with my other actions, so as to avoid issue. There is a purpose to these actions, namely that building a proof of character is one of the few ways to deflect the attacks. [/quote] Well thanks for clarifying you were referring to claims made in an unrelated subreddit, I was a little confused at first. I think again its important to clarify that neither I nor anyone in this thread were claiming that you affiliate with james allsup, if you can find a quote of someone doing that, please let me know so I can tell them off for baseless slander, as I have done with Ace of Hearts and Smash before. But to be absolutely clear, I don't think anything that [b]the article or myself[/b] have said about James Allsup is -Baseless -Out Of Context -Hysteria -Crying Wolf And I have no information on the flagpole incident, apart from the fact it was quite a long time ago (almost a year?) so It's safe to say in relation to this current information its fairly irrelevant, as it was different parties involved and different claims being made. Also just as a not one the milk drinking thing, its one of symbols/memes of the alt right, along with Pepe and the 'OK' hand sign. These things in themselves aren't racist obviously but they have been adopted by a racist group. I've seen very few people using the milk drinking meme as a statement who don't also happen to be white nationalists.