Oh, and let us not forget nosell man, aka Zeruel, who learned that no one is ignore the hard way. In all sincerity, despite the crybabying about the Vassals (mainly Juno), even I was never shameless enough to did out this level of "You ain't gonna beat me", wide area kill zones out of the blue. If Zack pushed the argument forward, I'm really gonna strike him with the GM hammer. That's not a request at this point.