[quote=@hagroden] [s]Sorry for double post[/s] Unless Shamir is able to get range on Kyvir, it won't be a very fair fight. Shamir is likely to be a lot faster than Kyvir, but Kyvir is pretty light on his feet for the mountain he is. That, plus Shamir is an "Average" swordsman, whereas Kyvir is only alive because he was the best fighter Surthay could produce. Right now, the only people I'm seeing that could take him on would be Alexander, Garuda, or obviously, Isilfarrel. However, with that all being said, his greatest weakness is his loyalty. Unless ordered to do otherwise by Isilfarrel, he won't attack or get into fights with people. Even if someone picks a fight with him, he will play it defensively and do little [i]actual[/i] damage to them, only doing enough to stop them from continuing to attack him. [/quote] Actually I would personally disagree, Shamir is and he's less experienced so Shamir would without a doubt be wrecked in sword combat. But that doesn't mean he can't be creative in his approach, as a tiefling you have the bodily weak points that an experienced fighter would know to take advantage of to get in a few good shots, but magically he can be over powered rather fast. I agree Shamir vs Kyvir is a poor match up, but with more experienced sword fighters it would be interesting to see them fight. Alexander seems to be more inclined magically than physically, so right now the only toe to toe fights I can see happening is Garuda cs Kyvir or Isilfarrel vs Garuda, since Garuda I would rank as the close second strongest magically and Kyvir out classing him physically but potentially not creatively. If that makes sense. Though that's just me speculating since you know your characters better than me and their limitations, I'm only going to step in if you start getting superman syndrome and [i][b]never[/b][/i] lose. And just so we're clear, I'm not arguing I'm just having fun discussing.