[quote=@pugbutter] >"I would write a reply to all of that but..." >494 words :P[/quote] I meant to write a reply to each of your points individually, decided not to, and then did it anyway halfway through my post. It's what happens when you're godlike like me. Sue me. :lol [quote=@pugbutter]IDK where to even begin with that tbh. Besides all your points being disjointed and irrelevant to each other, some are outright fallacious, like linking a direct correlation/causality between post count and thread loyalty. As a matter of fact, one of the four players who I included in that screenshot (the one who hasn't been seen in three months) was my most loyal by far, and I'm pretty sure from her status feeds that she only left because her kid is in the hospital and she has more important shit to worry about.[/quote] I mean, homie, you're the one that brought up post count where as I hadn't mentioned it before. You're using it as a measurement to prove that you can't smell someones activity rate beforehand, which is true, but if you consistently find people that end up flaking on you then I have to ask why that is the case if I never really had a problem with that at all. It either has something to do with the fact that the flaky roleplayers seem to flock to you, shitty partner choice, or your own personality. Maybe it's the first, maybe it's one of the latter two? I can't tell you which one it is, but then you also don't seem like the type of person I was talking about to begin with. Unless you self-associated with someone who consistently and constantly bitches about how all their 99 partners dropped out on them AND their mom? As for the causality between posts and loyalty, there is none. I dropped on people and I have thousands of posts. But you brought it up so I addressed it - perhaps my intent in the argument was unclear. If [i]you[/i] find that people with a certain traits (i.e. low post counts) drop on you a lot then it's up to [i]you[/i] to not RP with those people again. In my eyes it really is that simple. Any other criteria are fair game to me too, since ultimately it's you who decides who you RP with. Now, no, you can't smell thread loyalty, but there's some pretty fucking good indicators that have helped me personally. [quote=@pugbutter]I guess the biggest flaw with your reasoning is that you think people act like dipshits from the get-go, and we're choosing to enter RP with them anyway. Whereas out here in the real world, with the exception of a few narcissist spergs (who I definitely avoided, so again I don't see your point), all my partners have presented themselves with more professionalism than they really possess. It's basically a hobbyist's version of lying on a résumé, so I ask again: why are you keeping all your mind-reading powers to yourself instead of sharing with the rest of us?[/quote] In general in my experience people [i]do[/i] act like dipshits from the get go, so maybe that's my own experiences providing me with unique mind reading power, but I like to think I've got a pretty good idea of when roleplays just aren't going to work out and it usually comes down to my personality just being an extreme mismatch with theirs (or, in less nice terms, them being absolute fucking tossers). So, I'll say it again - I wasn't giving you a fix. There are no mind reading powers involved. It's just a judgement call you need to make and from how it sounds (apparently people ghost you a lot?) you make the bad calls? Or maybe you don't make calls and say OK to everyone who offers to RP with you? Honestly I don't know. But like I said, you don't seem like someone that complains constantly about everyone ditching them, so perhaps you misunderstood that I'm talking about a specific set of spergs who constantly whine about being ditched, and not the person that goes [i]oh, one of my partners ghosted me[/i] once. Unless you whine a lot. Then I don't know. Grow a pair, I guess? :lol [@ArenaSnow] seems to get it right in my eyes. [quote]Afterwards, what are you going to do? Learn and try to improve your mechanics, even if it's the tiniest of changes to how you approach people, or go on about being ditched so often> The latter is what I read to be the source of Odin's post - those who simply go on about how they're constantly dropped yet don't fix their circumstances, or just try again. Maybe even a new hobby where you're writing your own book, who knows.[/quote] Eh, yes, more or less. Though I'd take it a step further. It's not just circumstances, sometimes people just don't understand and cannot comprehend why people don't like to RP with them - either they're absolutely shit at roleplaying (for instance their post just rehashes the partners' posts without adding anything new, just regurgitating the words in their own words) or they have really really nasty OOC habits and personalities ("ARE YOU GONNA POST TODAY? I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN HOUR. WOW. CAN YOU POST TODAY? LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT MY PERSONAL LIFE. I AM SO MISERABLE AND I HAVE NO FRIENDS AND MY COLLEAGUES BULLY ME. WOW. HEY DO YOU WANNA TALK? LOL!!!") or we just don't click (which is far more innocent but becomes a problem when they get really offended that I drop them because of it). So, what I'm really saying is, if people drop you a lot, the first step should be not to cry wolf and whine on the internet about how everyone else is a bad boy, but maybe you should look at yourself and wonder what the fuck is wrong with you that causes people not to want to write with you. If you genuinely can't find a reason then yeah, by all means, whine about it.