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This has got to be the first time we've actually disagreed and taken over the thread instead of reading someone else's claims and diagreeing with them. 
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Yeah we are torching our Mr and Mrs Smith meme, although I guess they fight in the movie too.

[quote=@POOHEAD189]

It would only be a false dichotomy if you misread the wording, or if I just didn't type clearly enough. I should have put 
1) They [i]believe[/i] it is good for the child.
2) They [i]believe[/i] it is good for the parent. (Though it'd be hard for them not to know) 

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You could also believe that it will have a neutral effect on the child and be good for the parent, or a good effect on the child and a bad effect on the parent. My contention is that choosing a feature such as hair color has neither a positive or negative effect on the child.


[quote=@POOHEAD189]
 My hangup is the parents taking a choice into their hands they shouldn't have. But if it's ok for the parents to do it, then arguably it's ok for the president to choose the physical features of american citizens. Or an older brother getting to choose the physical features of a younger brother in the womb. The citizen or the brother can't decide, so why not them?

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Is there a particular reason the parents shouldn't have the choice, rather than rolling the dice? As for the other stuff thats kind of  a stretch that relies on among other things, physical standards for citizenship which would be a huge and independent issue. A brother could throw his opinion out there I guess, but he wouldn't have any legal power to enforce it.