[quote=@POOHEAD189] [@Kratesis]What's physically attractive to you doesn't mean it's attractive to others. What's physically attractive now might not be in 20 years when it will actually matter. [/quote] Just as their are variations between the traits individuals find attractive there is also a general trend. In short, the features humans find attractive are a scatter plot but there is also a trend line and that line correlates strongly with high cheekbones, secondary sexual characteristics and facial symmetry. [quote] A lot of people get smarter because they weren't physically attractive to begin with. A lot of people grow character because they weren't physically attractive to begin with. A lot of people find true happiness with someone else because they saw each other as beautiful rather than by going with societies standards.[/quote] What does "a lot" mean Poohead? Are we talking one percent of unattractive people? Two percent? Maybe ten? I'm just spitballing numbers here but- A: '[i]Maybe if I make him ugly he'll become a better person and get smarter![/i]' sounds like a low percentage bet. B: It's also a pretty crappy thing to do to a human being who you care about. This is someone's life we are talking about here. C: I doubt it's even true. [quote]If I have a child, I want them to have difficulties. Not to say I necessarily want them to be unappealing physically, or that I wouldn't provide for them, but a lack of difficulties is a lack of actual character. I'm the biggest critic of my parents but even when we weren't struggling for money, my mom didn't give us anymore than we needed and it helped me to live by myself as an adult.[/quote] While your satisfaction with one element of your parents approach to raising you is a positive I don't really see what that has to do with genetics. (Though I agree with their choice to not spoil their children.) [quote]Some people find me conventionally attractive now, but growing up they did not. I wouldn't have changed that. Being seen as unappealing [b]helped me be more mature later in life[/b] when I became appealing. [/quote] That maturity is why you named yourself Poohead, I assume? Forgive me if I am not quite persuaded of the validity of your logic here ;-P