[quote=@POOHEAD189]However under president Obama, and presumably under Bernie Sanders the waiting days of the VA went down 119 days between 2014 and 2015 I think? [/quote] Not buying that. I waited 14 months in 2014 and I'm still waiting after 18 months in 2016-2017. Granted, sample size of one, but frankly it's the one I care the most about. [quote=@Penny] Not really sure where to go from there. We're political children more concerned with soundbites than policy. [/quote] I told you exactly where to go from there. Solve the VA. Show me the policy that fixes the VA, put that policy into practice. When that happens, I'll entertain a conversation about universal healthcare. Until you can do that, you're asking me to inflict the system that cut me into literal pieces onto the rest of the nation. I ain't having it. Come on -- gradually apply some data to it. Fix my conservative BS. Punch the Nazi. Show me what you got, you're the smart one. Or were you just looking for another chance to throw out a soundbite?