[quote=@POOHEAD189]I'm simply saying it's a huge, complicated process, and perhaps that while it's not good, it used to be even worse. And I think that affordable healthcare is a good thing.[/quote] Interestingly, to the first part (it used to be worse), the thing they did to lower wait times was toss a few billion into an entirely different fund called "VA Choice," which simply pays for the veteran to see a regular doctor. It didn't fix any part of what's broken at the VA, it just said "Well.... fuck it, idunno, here's regular insurance." But then the kicker is, the provider network is shrinking on account of the VA's track record for approvals and payments and all that (which is poor) "Healthcare," "Affordable," and "Government." You can basically pick one-and-a-half of those things. The VA is affordable (free) and it's government, but you don't actually get healthcare. ACA is government healthcare, but it isn't actually affordable. [hider=To Whit:][img]http://i.magaimg.net/img/1fwo.jpg[/img][/hider] Private healthcare is healthcare and it's normally affordable for most people most of the time -- I mean it's better than the alternatives we've seen, so far as the US (in the real actual world) is concerned, so I'd say for now we should sorta roll with that.