[quote=@MelonHead] Having personal issues with people or organisations is also a great way to blinker yourself and ignore the real reason why you're campaigning for change. Being completely oblivious to your personal biases is plainly foolish, and expecting other people to overlook them even more-so. At no point did I state Odin was on a moral crusade, I did argue he likens himself to a freedom fighter as he says he has had to fight not to be branded as a terrorist, I will not insult you by explaining the correlation there and the link I am drawing. At no point did I assume Nyte hated the site, I was however aware that he had been banned before, rightly or wrongly, I perceived that his motivations for seeing problems with moderation would very likely be influenced by that experience, an experience not shared by the vast majority of RPG members, who haven't been banned. See how this would cause me to find his viewpoints as representative problematic? The point is, if I decry 'you people' it's because most of you, at least seem, like a very select and vocal minority on RPG who have, for the most part, all had your run ins individually with the administration of RPG, and I strongly suspect that your motivations are intrinsically linked with those experiences. In short, I'd like to see someone who has proven they can co-operate and work with moderators and engage in realistic and respectful dialogue with them be a spokesperson for the guild. Not you guys, to be honest. But it's not a perfect world. Ideally, if this matter concerns the general populace of RPG, they'll engage with this chat and it won't become just another echo chamber. However, considering the toxicity that seems to bubble beneath the surface here, I think they'll likely stay far away. Time will tell. [/quote] You made a lot of assumptions on your own really. Using your logic, can I assume because you're mostly an arena/advanced role player you're not the average representation of a roleplayer on RPG, so stop replying to this thread? Because the average number of roleplayers go to casual and not arena or advanced. One only needs to look at how many people are viewing the forum on the front page. We both know that would be an unfair assumption/conclusion to make. Like the one you're making about these "vocal minorities".