[quote=@mdk] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/tennessee-shooting-probe/index.html]Not[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/index.html]so[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/18/us/minnesota-mall-stabbing/index.html]fast[/url]... [url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html]Also[/url], [url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/us/fort-lauderdale-shooter-isis-claim/index.html]ISIS[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/justice/nidal-hasan-sentencing/index.html]has[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/us/boston-marathon-terror-attack-fast-facts/index.html]second-generation[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/us/new-york-explosion/index.html]and[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/16/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/index.html]the[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html]like.[/url] I could keep going but you get the point. This isn't a fictional threat. Now it's true -- Europe's situation is worse. Europe is closer, Europe is taking more refugees in. Europe is getting hit more -- except of course for Poland, which takes in zero refugees and has suffered zero attacks. A stats analyst could probably find a pattern there, but that's beside the point. If we know Islamist terrorism is a threat, and we know that Europe -- taking more refugees from areas with Islamist movements -- suffers a greater number of attacks... Doesn't that justify restrictions on refugee intake from those same areas? Our national interest would seem to dictate precisely that course of action. [/quote] Ah, I was under the impression that this referred to Islamic immigrants from areas like Iran, which is what most of the attention has been shifted to given recent changes. It seems that this is more shifted towards immigrants in general. Which could be better or worse. Sounds like you're dragging a net through the ocean that doesn't have many fish to begin with. But, we'll see. If it's immigrants in general then it makes a bit more sense, but still seems like this isn't the right step forwards. As for Poland - not true. Poland took in refugees - it's just that the moment the refugees arrived, the very next day they'd already escaped and went to Germany instead. That said, the Netherlands hasn't suffered an attack yet either and we do have refugees. So, there seems to be little causation there in terms of your actual argument. Does it contribute? Yes, 100%, taking in refugees from those areas is a risk. But it's not a guarantee.