[quote=@ArenaSnow]
[s]Yes, the victim trend is becoming rather strong, isn't it.[/s]
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[quote=@Ruby]
We're getting complaints about this thread becoming toxic when someone's disagreed with. 

A goal of any of these threads seemed to be, "Let's not get it closed for being out of control." 

Just a friendly warning it may be starting to shade in that direction.
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Not trying to moderate this thread or anything, but I never said that Ruby didn't have a point when she said this (and neither did J8cob as far as I can see, but I could be wrong). We were able to do quite a lot based on the first thread that Odin created such as helpful guides and nudge Mahz who has since fixed the PM system and added new tags as well. 

Now, I don't necessarily stand by the idea that this thread or any of these threads will do anything, but I would like to kindly ask if you could either offer constructive criticism and opinions or simply leave it be. Thank you kindly in advanced.

[quote=@ArenaSnow]
I don't agree with all of what Odin posts, and I do consider him biased to some degree, but he's actually bothered to advance the topic, while you & co are simply crying victim and not really doing anything in the discussion.
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I must have missed where you contributed to the conversation.