[quote=@Scarescrow]
I don't know, are we doing correctly to what the purpose of the page is? For all I see is a group of people mocking each other. Some say other are guilty, some defend themselves and made others look guilty. I subscribe this to see change but it seem that all I see is another " In Defense of Genre 2" Mk 3.

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You're new to these threads, aren't you? This is the way it goes when not enough people chime in and give their suggestions and instead it's the same four people arguing. :lol The moment I noticed nobody else was suggesting things, I knew it'd go down this road. I'll quote from someone unaffiliated with the current discussion:

[quote]Its a funny phenomenon. People think all is okay. Once a few group of people start speaking out with well reasoned criticisms and evaluation of the system, the others then associate you as some kind of psychopaths out to cause some damage to the community-- disregarding or stepping aside actual arguments that should be considered.[/quote]

The issue I see here is that people are quick to throw away [i]all[/i] critiques because they disagree with a few of the others. Or they are going hunting for reasons not to do certain things (''what we have now is FINE! We don't need to improve it!'') just for the sake of argument. I'm not interested in that, I'm interested in discussing the few ideas that are there and seeing what other people think of that.

I think that point got lost in translation somewhere and we ended up with a back and forth. It's not surprising but a bit sad perhaps.