I'm going to hate myself for posting like this, but bleh. [quote] I do not believe his to be organized conspiracy so much as I but this to be a clear cut case of what we are not being told, to which I mean this was not just a madman with a gun, or rather guns. My current take on this is that, based on their phrasing and how abysmal they are conveying information, they either do not have an answer or are attempting to find answers beyond say political, ideological, or religious radicalization.[/quote] I'm guessing a bit of that is missing, but I'll try my best. You are right, they do not currently have a motive, that is why they are trying round up all these persons of interest. As I already said, they will not be able to ever have a truly satifying motive without being able to question the man, who is dead. No matter what they do, unless some sort of statement made prior to his shooting is discovered, it will all be speculation. This does not mean they are trying to cover something up. If they were, they would present us with an explanation and build the case around it, instead of continuing to do their jobs in exploring every possibility. All current evidence does point to a simply disturbed man. [quote]Most active shooters do not assume they are going to.escape or survive, at least not in any information I have been privy to. It is always assumed they will continue in mass or active shooting until confronted, in which they often kill themselves or suffer death-by-cop as it were. This is unusual, of course not impossible, but it adds well into that his entire circumstance is strange.[/quote] I did not say active shooters, I said mass murderer. I will concede that the number of active shooters who plan to escape is much lower, though in more than 50% of cases the gunman is either gunned down, or stopped, implying that the gunman was preemptively stopped, so we do not know if he would have eventually tried to flee. Slightly less than 50% commit suicide. What this situation is, is a combination of both. Once confronted with what he believed to be police forces he ended his own life, which does line up with conventional behaviour for an active shooter. His plot for a potential escape are in line with the additional careful preparations he took. [quote]That is my only point, that there are too many unusuality about the man and the shooting as a whole; I wish I had more time to explain, but I am away again already. My point is not conspiracy theories, as those I do not peddle, but that there is too many pieces that are not fitting together well to just say mental illness.[/quote] Again, I'm not sure what you mean by unusual? Perhaps the desire to escape, though that is rather human in all actuality, and whether disturbed or not, the man is human. The fact that he rented a previous hotel, overlooking a previous music concert/festival, is slightly strange, though it seems to me that it is simply a case of a man who is disturbed fighting his demons (At the risk of sounding sympathetic to the man) This is also likely why he waited until the final day of the country event - he saw his window closing. Also, I understand what you mean by conspiracy theories, but when you dismiss a lone gunman (Mental issues) and you discount Terrorism, the only answer that is left is a concerted effort by a group to inflict mass mayhem, or in other words a conspiracy. Again, this requires you to try and hypothesise motives of such a group, why would they expend their resources to murder/injure a couple 100 random people, yet make no statements to the public? If this was meant as a demonstration/protest of some sort, we would be told, by the instigators themselves. For things not fitting together, it is easy to overthink things, which begins to make anything look more than a bit strange, especially when dealing with something that is outside of our everyday experiences. It is the same reason why people see someone floating on the ISS and says "hey that looks weird/fake" Welcome to zero-gravity ([url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A]AKA free-fall[/url]) It's pretty weird, and completely outside of our [i]natural[/i] ability to understand. The same can be said for any tragedy on this scale. When I look into the information that has been released+verified, it all seems to fit together relatively well. The lack of motive is moderately confusing, and I can see you require it as the central piece to the puzzle (justifiable) but considering the entire investigation suspect (They are withholding vital information from us) for something that may not even exist seems like a mistake. Also in the video I posted prior at aprx. 38:15 the man who is speaking explains it much better as to why there are communication " difficulties" or things not seeming to fit together well [quote]Worse yet, the public is [i]not[/i] buying the narrative being put out right now. People are losing their minds and are actually taking the real fringe theories more seriously than they should. [/quote] It is important to remember that 50% of the people you meet are below average intelligence. Paying heed to these people is the same as paying heed to the assholes who were claiming that the children murdered at Sandy Hook were not actually murdered. Now I'm going to be delving into the more conspiratorial side, purely because what the sheriff implied around 33:33 in the video I posted piqued my interest, "These type of investigations have been occurring in the last few years, we have to evaluate that" the sheriff seems to be saying in some way that he believes this surge in mass shootings are all somehow intertwined/connected. I have been scouring my mind for some sort of explanation (As I already said, I don't believe the government conspiracy has any validity whatsoever to it anymore) mostly for admittedly what amounts to macabre entertainment, but the only explanation I can conjure up is some sort of strange cult, with no clear motive - as I said before you would expect some sort of communication from these instigators - unless it is all part of some insane ritual they believe in. Thoughts? (Would you believe I actually had no clue who Tom Petty was before I looked up that song for a terrible joke? RIP)