[quote=@Shyri] Also, if you go for a government in St. Petersburg, we can roll with saying it's funded/supported by the Germans as the "true" Russian government. Don't really have the reach if you go for a Moscow-based one though. [@The Spectre] I think that, by the fifties, the British would be well off enough to retaliate in force to any attempt at their Caribbean territories. [/quote] Oy, oy, get out of my region comrade. You've already got Poland and Lithuania, but you can't stick your fingers in every pie you find~ [quote=@Dinh AaronMk] To make things funner we can toss a third city into the mix, if my knowledge of the source of the Russian nation banter is correct; though this is in a post-Soviet world. Folk say it's Saint Petersburg, because that's what Czar Peter built and he's the one that officially founded the Russian state. Muscovites claim it's Moscow because Moscow was at the center of the state Peter was born into and ruled from to found Russia, never mind he moved the capital of the Empire to Sankt Petersburg. Then there's the people of Novgorod, who have the claim to the Rurik dynasty who came on invitation to impose order and whose dynasty moved out from to seize the lands that made the Rus kingdoms. Though this claim may be nationally small, but that's also because the Soviets repressed Rurik's legacy because it was too foreign, Danish/Swedish in fact. But in any case since the royal family had ties to the Germans and also invited many Germans to live in the Empire itself the precedent for German involvement in the area is already pretty strong either way. [/quote] Also that Moscow was the capital and namesake of the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, which was the predecessor of the Russian state. So it has greater historical roots and legitimacy. I was thinking about using the Kievan Rus as the basis of a new claim to East Slavic hegemony myself. Also, welcome back Hugs, good to see you again.