[quote=@Valiance] You say that, but how many of those threats are actually trying for control, rather than destruction? It deeply concerns me, but I'm not sure how much it should. Their attempts at control were largely thwarted by personal greed. As in, a name for their collective? They had none, unless you want to just call them gods, because that's how they demanded and ended up being treated, for a time. [/quote] And these "managers"? What of their success?