[quote=@Galaxy Raider]
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I agree with Spirit. The organization did exist, from what I recall, before Kirina's control of it. No guarantee it wouldn't exist after a theoretical end to that control either.
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Simple solution, in that case. Poison the pool of candidates and any hope for an organization collapses in on itself.

[quote=@whizzball1]
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The soldiers are killers, but not commanders.
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Are you certain?